12.02.2008

"people don't vote for coalition governments"

Our furnace was shut down because of carbon monoxide danger, our dogwalker quit with no notice, Allan is sick and I'm a bundle of fibromyalgia symptoms. But who cares? All we want to do is watch CPAC all day.

Did you watch Question Period today? "Separatist coalition... proud to be democratically elected... sponsorship scandal..." Yes, they're still bringing up the sponsorship scandal. What else ya got? "Separatist coalition" is hilarious. The way the Bloc is bad-mouthed drives me to their defence. My Canada includes Quebec, but it includes democracy and tolerance, too.

Many of the Liberals were excellent, especially John McKay (Scarborough-Guildwood). Several NDPers highlighted what Parliament would look like if we had proportional representation, which was great to hear. We hit the mute button for the stacks of emails Conservative MPs are receiving - but it does show us the value of sending them. Keep those calls and letters coming, folks.

I'm also glued to Idealistic Pragmatist. Look to her for your response to this Conservative Quip: "Zero: the percent of Canadians who voted for a Liberal-NDP-Bloc coalition." The correct answer is:
Nobody voted for this coalition government, because people don't vote for coalition governments. Nor do they vote for single-party governments. They vote for their MP, and that's all.

No, really. It's true. Look it up if you don't believe me.

Also, go to Make Parliament Work for info on pro-coalition rallies in your area. Signed on so far: St. John's, Halifax, Charlottetown, Moncton, Regina, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Vancouver, Toronto, Ottawa.

19 comments:

impudent strumpet said...

It surprises me how separatist people think the Bloc is. I guess if you live outside Quebec you don't have much of a reason to read their platform in detail, but it's still kind of surprising that people haven't noticed they're not so very into it at the moment.

I know there are still people who are separatists, but they really seem to have other priorities at the moment. My livelihood depends on Quebec's presence in Canada, and I'm not feeling any reason to worry (and I worry about the most obscure things at the slightest provocation).

JakeNCC said...

after just listening to jim prentice on mike duffy ( what a right-wing asshole he is ) its clear harper will not give up power by allowing a vote of confidence. this house will be prorogued and some analysts said today he thinks harper is willing to prorouge until summer! this man will not give up power and is willing rule as a dictator. i'm so mad i've got to stop watching and reading this stuff.

JakeNCC said...

"the GG should rise above the rulebook". quote of the day from a tory professor on ctv just now. he said no government in the history of british parliamentarian governments has ever prorogued to avoid a vote of confidence. not in the uk, australia, new zealand, canada...anywhere. yet the tories say "rise above the rulebook".

Karen said...

I so so so want to be at the rally on Parliament Hill on Thursday. We'll see if I can work it with a child who starts school at noon. However, thought I'd point out that the Make Parliament Work website that you link to has a great image that people can post on their blog or website to get the word out. I put it on mine.

Stephanie said...

After reading Idealistic Pragmatist you might also enjoy reading James Laxer's post.

L-girl said...

After reading Idealistic Pragmatist you might also enjoy reading James Laxer's post.

Many people are emailing to me! Thanks for the link.

L-girl said...

this house will be prorogued and some analysts said today he thinks harper is willing to prorouge until summer!

Haven't you learned to stop predicting yet? None of these analysts have a crystal ball.

this man will not give up power and is willing rule as a dictator.

Too bad for him. He won't be given the opportunity. He's going down!!!

L-girl said...

Thank you Karen, I'll check that out tomorrow.

It surprises me how separatist people think the Bloc is. I guess if you live outside Quebec you don't have much of a reason to read their platform in detail, but it's still kind of surprising that people haven't noticed they're not so very into it at the moment.

Yes, very true! Before I moved to Canada, I thought the same thing. I remember using that same old line about Canada tolerating a federal party that would break up the country (for some a sign of Canada's tolerance, for others a sign of its stupidity).

Now I understand the Bloc with more nuance.

but they really seem to have other priorities at the moment. My livelihood depends on Quebec's presence in Canada, and I'm not feeling any reason to worry (and I worry about the most obscure things at the slightest provocation).

I also don't worry about separatists, and I'm glad to hear your confirmation of my instincts.

impudent strumpet said...

some analysts said today he thinks harper is willing to prorogue until summer!

Don't they need to pass a budget by the end of March because otherwise there will be no budget in effect or something like that?

Lisa said...

And then there's all those folks who keep threatening that the "West" is going to separate...because of this insane coalition (which isn't even technically the case) with those traitorous Bloc separatists!!

Well, sometimes I do worry about the state of Canada...there seems to be a lot of divisiveness, regionally and politically.

Andrea said...

There is one good thing that has come out of all of this - the public suddenly WOKE UP!
Hello people!!
This is what happens when you sit on your asses and dont vote!!

Those 48% of the population who watched a football game rather then vote have no right to bitch about what is happening in the government right now.

I am pretty opinionated about letting them know this too.

I am actually finding this all very exciting.

JakeNCC said...

You're right Laura, I'm just going to stop listening to all these stupid predictions. After an hour of Mike Duffy tonight which was basically just an hour-long Harper commercial ( they had several right wing talk show hosts on to gauge how the "public" is reacting. please! ) I'm done with these political programmes until this is over. I'll watch The National each night and check in on the G&M website and a few progressive blogs and that's it. Wish I could be in Ottawa Thursday but I have to work.

Think positive think postive I must keep telling myself but after Harper's performance at Question Period today...well I'm just speechless.

L-girl said...

I'll watch The National each night and check in on the G&M website and a few progressive blogs and that's it.

You'll be doing yourself a favour. I'm going with CPAC as much as possible - especially during Question Period, The National and the few progressive blogs that are not simply regurgitating the news.

L-girl said...

Don't they need to pass a budget by the end of March because otherwise there will be no budget in effect or something like that?

I believe there is a deadline. March sounds right but I'm not sure.

But no way he's going to prorogue til the summer! No way he'd be allowed to. That's the kind of inane commentary that turns me off from "the pundits" altogether.

Well, sometimes I do worry about the state of Canada...there seems to be a lot of divisiveness, regionally and politically.

There are deep divisions, for sure. But I see that as diversity. When I meant I don't worry about the state of the country, I meant regarding separation/secession. It seems for now that moment has passed.

Re the west seceeding, yeah, right.

Those 48% of the population who watched a football game rather then vote have no right to bitch about what is happening in the government right now.

As if that stops them.

I am actually finding this all very exciting.

I think we all are! It's amazing.

Scott M. said...

Yep, the budget has to be passed. That's actually a recent change, because back in 1988 the then Progressive Conservative government called the house to session, passed the Free Trade Act and immediately prorogued parliament without dealing with supplemenatry estimates. They then used a Govenor General's "Special Warrant" to fund changes until the house sat again.

Peter Milliken, before becoming speaker, had a private members bill receive royal assent to change the Financial Administration Act to deny governments use of a special warrant except in the case of a dissolution for a general election, and 60 days after OR UNTIL the house has been recalled whichever comes first.

So what else can they do?

They could:

1) Try to pass a bill of Interim Supply (not a confidence vote IIRC)
2) Live without, and go panicking to the Governor General when the government runs out. She could then issue a Special Warrant anyway (it's her perogative) and the Conservatives would be breaking the law, but Government would still run.

Idealistic Pragmatist said...

The guy who got quipped at came back, and I had a wordier response for him this time. *g*

L-girl said...

Oh good! Thanks for the heads-up.

Geod said...

Sorry to hear about your furnace. Its a good thing they caught the problem before the really cold weather starts.

When I was working as a gas furnace technician, this is why I always recommend that the customer buy a carbon monoxide detector for their house. Also, that the furnace should be checked yearly in the summer/fall before the cold weather really starts.

In regards to the current political news. You should tune in to "The Current" on CBC radio 1 every morning at 8:30AM. They always have great interviews with MPs and any other people in the news. Also, they sometimes have a comedy group perform a satire, this morning it was the frankenstein coalition, which was pretty funny.

L-girl said...

We have a carbon monoxide detector. I believe it's the law here for landlords to install one. The whole thing has been an inconvenience, but nothing more than that. Good thing I like the cold!

You should tune in to "The Current" on CBC radio 1 every morning at 8:30AM.

I'm not a fan. But enjoy. :)