old trolls don't die. they barely fade away.

I left a comment at the Canadian Blog Awards, to ask a question about graphics. A right-wing, pro-war blogger who I banned from wmtc a year ago used this as an opportunity to post a link to the discussion from November, 2007 in which I banned him!

His comment at the CBAs is completely gratuitous. No, it's beyond gratuitous: it's bizarrely out of place. Everyone else at the thread is quite rightly ignoring it.

Big surprise: his comment mentions "free speech", implying, I think, that his rights were infringed when I banned him from my own blog. Does he really think free speech means we each have an obligation to host the online equivalent of an offensive guest in our own homes? Or does he play the free-speech card because he's got nothing else? And why does he care so much that he is unable to ignore my name in an unrelated thread?

Who are these people who nurse these internet grudges for so long?

It just amazes me. A few days ago, our friend Magnolia left an insulting comment, incensed that an immigrant qualifies for a Canadian Blog Award. (Psst: read the rules.) Now I see the seemingly normal Mark Ottawa still whining about being banned, a full year after the fact.

Have some dignity, people! It's time to move on!


richard said...

Reminded me of this little cartoon


There is something about the internet, and blog comments in particular, that brings out the stalker in many people. Some just can't lay off. But to pick it up after a year is something else again. You gotta have a life away from the keyboard, eh!

laura k said...

I love that cartoon! It's one of my favourites.

Wmtc has had many trolls, but two of them really went out into stalker territory. The infamous "GaryStJ" would show up on blogs that I commented on to bad-mouth me. It was creepy.

"Magnolia_2000" used as many as 10 different personas (we lost track) over at least two years, before revealing that they were all him.

This guy Mark Ottawa isn't in that category at all. But he seems unable to get past being banned from this blog. He gives me far too much importance!

richard said...

Didn't you suspect I might be magnolia once on JofS? Yikes!

laura k said...

Didn't you suspect I might be magnolia once on JofS? Yikes!

Yes! My experience with trolls has made me less trusting and open than I used to be - a touch paranoid. I wish it weren't the case, but there it is.

Another friendly commenter, JakeNCC, was also under suspicion for a time. Too many bad experiences in a row, certain trigger words, turns of phrase... Damn.

M@ said...

The thing is, over time, trolls never fail to show their hand. JakeNCC is not always, shall we say, restrained in his remarks, but when you look at the corpus of comments over time, certainly he's not here to poke people with a stick. He's just sayin'.

Whereas the vaunted GaryStJ and Magnolia10+ and Mark, Ottawa are just lunatics.

I guess what it boils down to is, given time and patience, the trolls out themselves. It sucks that it takes time to get there, sometimes, but I guess that's the price of running a CBA finalist blog, eh?

Unknown said...

I sympathize with your situation here; I've apparently gotten a little too paranoid myself because of a stalker/troll I have on my blog.

As for the "free speech" defense, I recently learned from someone at the CBC who'd contacted me that, as bloggers, you and I are technically publishers under the law. As publishers, we are responsible for anything we choose to publish on our blogs including comments; legally, the idea is if we can prevent a comment from being posted (and we can) then any comment posted to our blogs constitutes our choice to publish that comment.

In other words, "free speech" doesn't apply here; if you publish inflammatory comments on your blog that happen, for example, to inadvertently libel someone, you could be held equally responsible as the person who posted the comment.

Not that I think that's going to assuage this particular troll's rancor; just food for thought. ;)