5.12.2008

fun with statcounter

No SSOD today, but I did get a nice chuckle out of this.

I saw the search string "sean penn move to canada" in my Statcounter and followed the link. In the Google search there was a link to Yahoo Answers link, and they're usually good for a laugh. The URL was gone, but in the cached copy, I found this:
If Rudy Giuliani wins, who is moving to Canada?

One of the answers:
Don't you just love the Liberal threat's that they will move to Canada if a Republican is elected? Like any one would care! They never keep there promise and leave cause they are so full of sh*t . Here's a news flash Liberals are useless to America! If you want to leave please don't let the door slap your arss! Problem is I don;t think Canada would take all the Libatwits . Maybe they should go to Iran!

And another:
No one. It is an empty promise. No one will move, not even Sean Penn, Susan Sarandon and the dozens of other Hollywood weirdos who will make the promise to do so if he gets nominated. No one ever leaves the U.S. to live in another country.

Meanwhile:
The number of Americans admitted to Canada last year [2006] reached a 30-year high, with a 20 per cent increase over the previous year and nearly double the number that arrived in 2000. . . . .

The survey found that 10,942 Americans came to Canada in 2006, compared to just over 9,262 in 2005. In 2000, 5,828 came to the country.

And that's just Canada, only one of the many countries Americans have escaped to.

9 comments:

rww said...

How could anyone want to leave the greatest nation in the universe. This is the type of reasoning that says that people hate the United States for the good things about it rather than the bad things about it.

Nancy said...

I assure you, more people would come if they met the standards for immigration.
I just heard a horror story from my sister about how her daughter can't go to an endocrinologist (they are on an HMO and must have this visit approved, even though the girl's health is obviously suffering and the condition is possibly serious.) I said that this wouldn't apply in Canada, and she snapped, "Well it's a socialist country!" I don't think she understands what a parliamentary democracy is. Canada is bad to her because she hears that buzz word SOCIALIST. It's no good explaining that socialized medicine is not the same thing, exactly.
The propaganda has permeated most Americans' brains so thoroughly that, in the words of Groucho Marx, they would rather believe it than their own eyes. They really believe that they live in the greatest country in the world. They should know--they rarely visit others!
More surprising to me was the statement of a Canadian citizen when I mentioned that I was moving there in three weeks' time. "Why do you want to come to this lousy country?"
I told him I thought it was beautiful, and that I was getting a much better job and living situation here than I had in the USA. Americans are not the only people who have dealt with the 'we're the best' propaganda for generations.

L-girl said...

I assure you, more people would come if they met the standards for immigration.

That's very true. I've heard from dozens of people like that. I find it sad, since the biggest obstacle is usually economic/financial.

More surprising to me was the statement of a Canadian citizen when I mentioned that I was moving there in three weeks' time. "Why do you want to come to this lousy country?"

I was very surprised when I first heard that too. Now I'm used to it. It's usually from people who seem ignorant about the differences between the US & Canada.

briz said...

I think that for the most part, the claim that "if (whoever) wins the election, I'm moving to Canada" can be considered an empty threat. I know people have made this claim for years and never followed through. I find that most people who are serious about leaving America don't use this kind of reasoning. A decision of that magnitude probably shouldn't be made by the voting public, and really, if that is the sole reason someone is leaving, they will probably be unsatisfied with Canada as well.

On the other hand, how many Canadians, if handed a Green Card, would jump at the chance to move to America? This is why I have a lot of respect for Americans who choose to live in Canada (and subsequently pay much higher taxes). ;-)

L-girl said...

You're right, Briz - rarely would a life change like this be determined by one election. But we do know people who left the US for Canada for whom the 2004 "election" was a determining factor - the last straw.

However, I must disagree with two things you said. :)

A decision of that magnitude probably shouldn't be made by the voting public

The elections in the US are no longer determined by the voting public. And that actually was a huge factor for our own decision to emigrate. So it wasn't Bush's election in 2000 that did it, it was the fact that he wasn't elected but was in the WH anyway!

This is why I have a lot of respect for Americans who choose to live in Canada (and subsequently pay much higher taxes).

While I appreciate the respect, I must tell you our taxes are not higher. They are the same.

US taxes vary greatly by state, but for many Americans, taxes in Canada and the US would be the same. The big difference is where your money goes - war vs healthcare.

briz said...

My mistake, I should have said that the decision to leave the States shouldn't be based solely on who becomes president.

I must tell you our taxes are not higher [in Canada]. They are the same.

This I cannot agree with. Income tax in Canada is much higher than in the US. The same can be said about sales tax. However, the illusion that you can make more money in the US is just that, an illusion. After you factor in health care, etc. I'm sure you'd find that the average middle-class Canadian makes the equivalent of the average middle-class American over a lifetime.

The big difference is where your money goes - war vs healthcare.

This is very true, however the Canadian government does waste a lot of taxpayer's money. Luckily it's not on war, but it is still frustrating, and depressing to see all of those deductions every two weeks...

L-girl said...

My mistake, I should have said that the decision to leave the States shouldn't be based solely on who becomes president.

Then I agree with you entirely. :)

I must tell you our taxes are not higher [in Canada]. They are the same.

This I cannot agree with.


Whether or not you agree, I have been employed in the same field in both countries and my taxes were nearly identical.

This is very true, however the Canadian government does waste a lot of taxpayer's money. Luckily it's not on war, but it is still frustrating, and depressing to see all of those deductions every two weeks...

Taxes are necessary to maintain a decent society. I don't feel the deductions from my paycheques are depressing.

kim_in_to said...

On the other hand, how many Canadians, if handed a Green Card, would jump at the chance to move to America?

I find this question interesting, and do not find the answer in any way obvious. I've seen mention on this blog of many Canadians saying they would jump at the chance. I don't think I know any of them! I've lived here all my life and met very few people who would consider it. We do see Canada's faults - sometimes, we see nothing but. Yet most people I talk to have always seen the US as a place with fewer of the things we value (like health care), and more drawbacks (like gun culture).

L-girl said...

Kim, you might be interested in an old post where various commenters discussed this issue. It's here.

I have spoken to many Canadians - mostly through work, where I meet a lot of apolitical people - who are still enthralled by the US. However, a brief conversation - a quick reminder about health care, for example - will usually break the spell.

And reading through that old post, I see it also mentions supposed anti-Americanism! It all comes together. :)