9.14.2013

wmtc trolls are alive and as insane as ever

I haven't been writing much lately, so it's good to know loyal wmtc readers are still reading every post. Well, one is, anyway.


Yes folks, a full seven years after first appearing in comments on this blog in the guise of a female fan, the freak we call Mags is still spewing his bile on a regular basis. We delete most of the comments without reading, but once in a while, it's good to share.

For the record, I regard every one of those (nearly) 3,000 victims of September 11, 2001, and their loved ones, among the extremely long list of victims of US imperialism. I have mourned them all. Not a one deserved their fate.

I merely recognize that their numbers are dwarfed by the millions of unacknowledged victims of US imperialism and other wars the world over. And I've had my fill (and then some) of the US exceptionalism and UScentrism that fetishizes the event.

I know you all know that. But some things just need to be said, even if it brings attention to the class clown that we normally ignore.

September 12, 2001: a view from new york.

September 11, 2010: it is so time to be over 9.11

September 11, 2011: 9.11.11: an anti-remembrance

It appears that in 2012 I ignored the day completely!

And on the endlessly fascinating, maddeningly inscrutable topic of trolls, I am still wondering, why, why, why???

Scrolling through the "wingnuts" wmtc category, I notice that I also mentioned Mags when we returned from Spain in late May. I must be running out of material!*






* Not really.

11 comments:

laura k said...

Now Mags is posting comment after comment, which I am deleting without reading. As the trolls always like to say, looks like I struck a nerve.

allan said...

Damn, I have missed them all...

laura k said...

One bit I saw was "Thank you for putting my comment through." Unfortunately I do have to see a snippet in order to reject it.

Kirby Evans said...

The citizens of an imperialist nation generally have little regard for anything but their own people and their own interest. It is simply a sad historical fact. This is a central mechanism of imperialism. Imperialist must necessarily demising the importance of others while simultaneously imagining that the lives of people of their own nation are inherently worth more. If they didn't see it this way Imperialism would not function because it would never be properly justifiable. Thus, the British empire used their so-called 'white man's burden' to justify global domination. Many British people bought it (even members of the working-class). And even though the real motivation of British Imperialism was the systematic stripping colonies of their wealth in the interest of the British aristocracy, many people still acted as though there was some altruistic motivation. Similarly, 90% of Americans ignore generations of US support of dictators and human rights abuses and are convinced that everything the US does is in the interest of global prosperity and goodness. You cannot converse with such people because colonialism is like a religion.

laura k said...

I agree with you completely. I would also add two points.

One, in my experience most groups believe their own members to be more valuable than members of other groups. The group could be a nation such as Canada or an ethnic group within that nation, such as Chinese Canadians, but people care more about "their own" than about others. I see this (a sad and sometimes dangerous fact) as nearly universal, not peculiar to empires.

Every time we read about a disaster and are told how many Canadians were on the scene, that's what we're seeing.

Two, very few Americans see the US as an empire. Most would have absolutely no idea what we mean by US imperialism. American citizens have virtually no control over the country's foreign policy. When it comes to foregin policy, voting for either party yields the same results. They are powerless to change the results, thus pay little attention - something that is easy to do, as most of their media shows them fiction.

Kirby Evans said...

I agree Laura.

I grew up in the US and the sad truth is that most Americans are shockingly ignorant of their own country and most others too. And when they are given the opportunity to find out they desperately hide from it.

I also agree that the process we are talking about takes place within a country as well as without. Most Canadians I meet are still shockingly racist against Canadian Indigenous people and racism against them is sadly still entirely tolerated. And the process is much like the one talked about above. People really don't want to know and it is too painful for them to think that people are actively oppressed in our own country.

laura k said...

Yes to all!

People really don't want to know and it is too painful for them to think that people are actively oppressed in our own country.

It's so entirely different than their image of Canada. It doesn't compute, and so gets pushed away.

johngoldfine said...

Uh, I was sort of disappointed in Mags, frankly.

Doesn't he usually get his jollies pasting you for your criminal inattention to Canada's national birth on Vimy Ridge?

laura k said...

Well yeah, but he did call me a cunt. Does that help?

allan said...

Uh, I was sort of disappointed in Mags, frankly.

Mags has been mailing it in for a few years now. He simply refuses to put the necessary time and thought and bile into his rants. The insults are the same every time: baby-killer, nigger-lover, never be a real Canadian, self-centered, hate America, blah, blah, blah. Jesus, get some new material. He's like Mad Libs at this point.

We went to Spain for three weeks and I don't think he complained once about being forced to read Laura's daily travel posts.

laura k said...

We went to Spain for three weeks and I don't think he complained once about being forced to read Laura's daily travel posts.

He complained once, but only once - unlike the near-daily complaints when we were in New Mexico and Newfoundland.

In this post, above, where it says "I notice that I also mentioned Mags when we returned from Spain" there's a link to it. He appears to be dismayed at how little money we spent in Spain. Sheesh, he should see the credit card bill.