7.23.2011

to anyone trying to use the massacre in norway as a justification for abolishing gun control

Regarding the horrific massacre in Norway, some people are apparently making statements like this: "If that had happened in Texas, the shooter would have lasted 30 seconds before dozens of regular folks with guns took him out."

Texas has a rate of deaths by guns of about 11 per 100,000, which comes out to about 2,860 per year. [If my math is incorrect, by all means let me know.] Norway's rate of deaths by guns is 0.30 per 100,000, about 14 a year.

If we factor in yesterday's massacre - clearly not the norm in Norway! - Norway's death-by-gun rate rises to 1.66 per 100,000.

In other words, factoring in all the poor souls who lost their lives yesterday, Texas's gun death rate will exceed Norway's by almost seven times.

You know how when people carry cell phones, they use cell phones? And if they don't have a cell phone on their person, they can't use one? Letting people run around with guns doesn't decrease gun violence. Humans don't work that way.

6 comments:

allan said...

Regarding overhearing heated arguments or seeing some drunks brawl in a more civilized country, people often say: "If that had happened in Texas, one or two of those guys would have been dead, along with maybe four or five random people hit by stray bullets."

impudent strumpet said...

It always surprises me that people assume the good guys can outshoot the bad guys.

laura k said...

It always surprises me that people assume the good guys can outshoot the bad guys.

The bad guys who have been planning an attack, are positioned strategically and carrying all their weaponry - the good guys who are taken by surprise and presumably are not carrying their arsenal around all the time (being good guys).

Brian said...

When Jared Loughner emptied his Glock into his innocent victims he did it while in a crowded mall in one of the most gun-totinest states in the union. When the police took him away he didn't have a single hole in him. So much for that gun protection theory.

tom s. said...

Sadly, you are proven right. http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/07/23/us-texas-roller-rink-shooting.html?ref=rss

James said...

IIRC, a bystander at the Loughner shooting did have a gun of his own. He didn't use it, because in the confusion, he couldn't tell who to shoot at.

Of course, one of the big problems with trying to be the hero at a shooting comes when the cops show up and see two people with guns. They don't know who the bad guy is...