12.02.2010

we like lists: list # 3: pet peeves

Our last list celebrated the joy and wonder of life's many simple pleasures. This one is exactly the opposite: the irritation of life's little annoyances. The things that make you grit your teeth, rant to your partner, and mutter words not safe for work.

Let's be specific. "People who annoy me" is too general. And let's think small. "Social injustice" or "racism" are not pet peeves.

We'll make this one an even dozen. Some years back, I could have filled 12 spots just from annoyances related to the riding the subway: door-blockers, men sitting with their knees a meter apart taking up three seats, percussion groups extorting money from a captive audience. But that's all gone now. Here are my current top 12.

1. So much advertising during baseball games.

2. People walking without picking up their feet, causing a shushing, scraping noise.

3. People talking while yawning. (Stop talking for a moment, yawn, then finish your sentence!)

4. People who ask me for help then don't say thank you. (Please tell me in advance if you don't plan to thank me, so I can decline to help you.)

5. People who email me comments instead of leaving them on the blog - not because they want to tell me something personal offline, but regularly, as their method of commenting.

6. Whistling.

7. Salespeople - including those selling religion - ringing my doorbell.

8. People recounting extremely detailed stories of what they were doing on September 11, 2001, because I am from New York City. This is always someone who was nowhere near any of the incidents and has no personal connection to the events, telling me when they heard, who told them, how they felt, and so on.

9. People bragging about how cheap they are - i.e., what a great deal they got, how they saved money by not paying for parking, how they paid less than me for something, often by buying a lower-quality product.

10. Bad customer service.

11. Having to hear other people's cell phone conversations on above-ground public transit. (This has replaced subway annoyances, but is mitigated by an mp3 player.)

12. "Lite FM" background music in restaurants, offices, stores or public spaces.

Yours?

Update!! I can't believe I forgot this one. I meant to include it all along.

13-100. People who complain about privilege. When I was a nanny, my employer used to complain to me about her son's tuition - private school that cost $5,000 a year - for a 7-year-old - in the 1980s. And she would complain to me. Co-workers who complain about the travails of building their McMansions, the vicissitudes of finding the perfect couch. Acquaintances who complain about the traffic on the way to the cottage, one of two houses they own. These are not everyday complaints about everyday annoyances. It's the myopia of people who don't appreciate how good they have it. If you can't stand the traffic on the way to your second home, stay the hell at home!

79 comments:

M@ said...

Most of yours annoy me too, and I would add:

- People who stand in the way of subway doors. Not when the doors change sides -- through multiple stops.

- Whistling.

- Groups of people who Laverne and Shirley their way slowly down a sidewalk or corridor, not letting others pass them.

- Store staff whistling while people are shopping in their store.

- People who are rude to wait staff as a matter of course.

- Bookstore staff whistling while people are shopping in their store.

- People who think their bag or backpack rates a seat on a crowded train or subway -- or who keep their backpack on in a crowded train or subway.

- Radio or TV commercials that feature the sound of whistling.

- Whistling.

Yeah... I really hate the sound of whistling.

redsock said...

Additional simple pleasure: hearing "Laverne and Shirley" used as a verb!

Amy said...

Oy, where do I begin?

1. People who snap their gum.
2. People who speed up to cut you off at an intersection.
3. Automated phone calls.
4. Doctors who keep you waiting too long in the waiting room and then also make you sit, undressed, in the exam room.
5. Being put on hold.
6. The whole cell phone thing. Do people really think we want to hear their conversations?
7. Going to a public bathroom to find that there is no toilet paper or that there are no paper towels...after it is too late.
8. Being rushed out of a restaurant.
9. Poorly written anything.
10. Most adolescent boys. (Sorry---they are just so loud and smelly and annoying.)
11. People who talk during movies---whether in the theater or when watching at home.
12. People who spoil the ending of books, movies, etc.

And I could go on and on....

Amy said...

Can I add one more?

13. People who show up at my door without calling first. I hate surprises.

L-girl said...

Great list, Amy! I feel your pain.

I'm curious when and where you come into contact with adolescent boys?

L-girl said...

Additional simple pleasure: hearing "Laverne and Shirley" used as a verb!

Totally.

I don't know why, and I can't say for sure, but I think maybe M@ dislikes whistling. But I could be wrong.

Amy said...

Adolescent boys are all over. Don't they have them in Toronto?? :)

The town we live in seems to breed them. They show up every where. They are at baseball games, movies, restaurants, shopping malls, etc. Obviously it was much worse when I had adolescent daughters living at home.

On the other hand, I once, about 40+ years ago, used to find adolescent boys cute, funny and desirable. What the hell was I thinking?

Dusty said...

People who clip their nails on the subway.

Stephanie said...

Oh this one should be so much fun!!

I love your #4. People who ask me for help then don't say thank you. (Please tell me in advance if you don't plan to thank me, so I can decline to help you.)

To that I would add.

1. (While I worked as a server in the restaurant industry): People who come to a full service restaurant and enjoy all the benefits of the service provided by the staff there and at the END of the meal announce that they won't be leaving a tip because they are against the concept. REALLY...you should have announced that at the beginning of the meal and we could have gone the self serve route. :(

2. (also related to my days in the restaurant industry)

People who order the fajitas without onions because they are allergic as they are scarfing down the *free* chips & salsa that is FULL of onions. (grrr)


3. people who pull the latest talking points out of the headlines/11 o'clock newscast and then spout off feeling quite satisfied that they are informed.

4. Shopping centres

5. the goons that drive around (often in their hummer, pick-up or SUV but not exclusively) creating their own rules of the road because they feel invincible.

6. Cell phone conversations for all to hear (on the train, on transit or on campus).

7. people who look at me like I have the plague when I sneeze in public. I have year round allergies and will sneeze constantly but in this germ phobic era, I feel the looks of disdain and now I have to justify my sneezes to perfect strangers - I don't have a cold this is from allergies-Worst is in flight because the change in altitude brings on sneezing.

8. hand sanitizer and hand sanitizer abusers.

9. MP3 players so loud we are all living the dance club moment while riding the bus with you.

10. The woman trying to run me down with her shopping cart in the grocery store because I wasn't going fast enough on the way out when in fact I was blocked by others ahead of me and out of *courtesy* wasn't going to run them down.

11. Much like noisy MP3 players or cell phone conversations people who can't or won't modulate their volume for bus or train rides. 4-6 hours is a really long time when sitting in front of incessant "OMG it was soooo like REALLY!! I mean, you know!"

12. All forms of advertising most especially when they insult my intelligence.

Wow, thanks for letting me vent!! :)

Stephanie said...

I think I need to edit my list...sounds like an annoyance to add to the list.

-people who don't self edit.

L-girl said...

(Stephanie, your comment came through 5 times. I hope I put the right one through - let me know if I didn't.)

L-girl said...

Adolescent boys are all over. Don't they have them in Toronto?? :)

Hee hee.

I like teenagers - very much - and like to be around them. I find that unless I make a special effort to do so, by teen-related activism or volunteering, I don't have any contact with them. I see them walking home from school, but that's about it.

I'm wondering where you have enough contact with teens to find them irritating, but therein is the crux of pet peeves! When something doesn't annoy you, you don't notice it. When it does annoy you, you can't NOT notice it.

Impudent Strumpet tried to listen for the shushing sound of Ugg boots. She couldn't hear it. I hear it all around me grrrr!!!!

L-girl said...

People who clip their nails on the subway.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I didn't include this because I haven't seen it since leaving NYC. But OMFG. OMFG

L-girl said...

and at the END of the meal announce that they won't be leaving a tip because they are against the concept. REALLY...you should have announced that at the beginning of the meal and we could have gone the self serve route.

WTF??? This is the most disgusting excuse for cheapness EVER. WTF.

And this:

People who order the fajitas without onions because they are allergic as they are scarfing down the *free* chips & salsa that is FULL of onions. (grrr)

must be people who are so unassertive that they cannot simply ask for "no onions" because (like me) they don't like eating raw onions, except in certain sauces like salsa. Just ask for it politely. You don't need to make excuses. BAH.

I also totally totally relate to this:

7. people who look at me like I have the plague when I sneeze in public. I have year round allergies and will sneeze constantly but in this germ phobic era, I feel the looks of disdain and now I have to justify my sneezes to perfect strangers

I once blogged about a similar thing. I had an allergy-related coughing fit on the GO train - mouth covered, standing in a corner, turning red, tears streaming down my face, struggling for breath - and people were glaring at me like I was trying to kill them.

And Stephanie's #10! I frequently walk slowly to be courteous to a senior in front of me, only to be cut off, run down and harumphed at by impatient people behind me. Grrrr.

Stephanie said...

So sorry Laura,

I have been getting a whole series of strange messages from blogger and just kept editing and trying again.

Amy said...

I find teenagers fascinating, one on one, and generally I find teenage girls very enjoyable, except when they are petty and mean. In fact, I tend to watch a lot of TV intended for adolescents because I still find that time of life so important and challenging.

But a gang of boys---acting like baby chimps, running, jumping, grunting---very annoying, even if I am not having direct contact with them.

People clip their nails on the subway? Wow. The things one misses, living in the 'burbs!

L-girl said...

No prob! It just came through 2 more times. I keep thinking, wow, this thread is so popular...oh, no it's not. :>)

Amy said...

I appreciate all the things Stephanie said about how people mistreat those who work in restaurants. My younger daughter has added a whole new level of insight on this from her experiences over the last few years.

Stephanie said...

Thanks Amy, I really think that books could be written about the industry.

Point of interest, I don't know what it is like in the US but in Ontario the server minumum wage is $1/hr less than regular minimum (because of tipping I assume).

L-girl said...

It's just as bad in the US. In the US (I think) you have more rudeness, while in Canada, you have more cheapness.

It's the only industry where management can overtly shift the cost of staff to the customer - not through prices, as would be normally done - and where if you're having a bad day, or an unpleasable or rude or cheap customer, you take home less pay.

It's an insane system. The European system of a mandatory service charge is much more reasonable and humane.

Amy said...

Maddy works as both a hostess and as a waitress. It's crazy that her hourly wage drops significantly when she serves, although generally she ends up making more money on the nights she is a server than on the nights she is a hostess. But the range in tips is bizarre and unpredictable. Mostly, she loves the people and enjoys the whole atmosphere. But her stories of how some people behave are at times hilarious and at times horrifying.

M@ said...

Whistling? Why, yes, I hadn't really thought about it, but I don't particularly enjoy it...

I have to admit that "Laverne and Shirleying" is not my own -- however it was a lifelong New Yorker who I heard use the phrase, and I love it. The imagery is perfect.

Oh, and SuMei once saw someone clipping their nails on a GO train.

johngoldfine said...

l-girl--no problem if I email you my list, right? Cool!

;)

redsock said...

I really think that books could be written about the industry.

There are a few books written by waiters. I have one from 1995 called "Waiting" by Bruce Griffin Henderson. He gathered stories from his own experience, as well as from other waiters. I waited tables for three years (87-90) so this book was pure comedic gold.

Stephanie said...

Bang on Laura!

I have always said that if the industry operated on the same model as all other businesses the menu prices would inflate so much as to make eating out impossible for most.

And of course the european system provides benefits that no one gets in NA. If for example you are suffering from injury sustained while on the job no server would make a claim because the coveraged is based soley on hourly wages and no one can afford to live on that!! Oh but I digress.

L-girl said...

l-girl--no problem if I email you my list, right? Cool!

They never ask. They won't ask, because they won't leave comments. They are comment-phobic. It's too public, someone might identify them, someone might respond to their comments (goddess forbid!). But they simply must have their say!

It's a very inconsiderate use of my time. But hey, it's not their time, what do they care.

Blah blah blah grrrrrrr vent vent vent...

Nitangae said...

1. People who have strong opinions about books without reading them.
2. Drivers who talk on cell-phones while turning (and who look angrily at me when they nearly hit me - this has happened a few times)
3. Bicyclists who don't stop for pedestrians at cross-walks and speed down sidewalks.
4. Pedestrians who crowd the bicycle paths.
5. That is all.

redsock said...

1. when there is a long line at a store, and another cashier opens up, and people behind me or even people just approaching the cashier area waltz right over and the cashier does nothing, i.e., refuses to take the actual next person waiting in line

2. shitheads who waltz over to the open cashier and then get pissed or "act" confused when i point out that they are not actually the next person waiting in line and that they should show some fucking courtesy

3. music played in restaurants, dentist's offices, supermarkets, *outside* of gas stations, etc. -- why are we so afraid of quiet and our own thoughts?

4. people who chew with your mouth open

5. slow walkers that are clearly not disabled (especially on narrow walkways where passing is all but impossible)

6. people who stop moving at the top of an escalator or in the doorway of a building or subway car

7. baseball announcers who will not shut up during a game (are they getting paid by the word?); plus they are also saying the most stupidest, pointless things

8. slow computer performance

9. misused apostrophe's

10. loud cell phone conversations (and, at times, any nearby cell phone conversation or any loud conversation) (this one could probably be shortened to simply "people")

11. a ringing telephone

12. having someone tailgate me and then finally zoom past me right before a noted speed trap -- and there is no goddamn cop out with his radar gun that day

johngoldfine said...

I think I'll just stick with workplace items on my list.

1. New college presidents who, four months into the job, have never taken the trouble to systematically meet faculty

2. Administrators who write in an fancy-impressive style--and they can't even go down that wrong-headed path without getting lost

3. Educationese jargon (see #2)

4. 'Outcomes' and 'assessment'

5. Colleagues of 25 years who scuttle past in the hall looking like frightened gerbils, incapable of returning a simple 'good-morning'

6. Students who think I'm a slacker if I don't enforce their highschool notions of the various pettinesses a real and proper teacher should insist on.

7. Security hires who want to be okayed to carry firearms on a no-firearms campus

8. No-smoking campuses

9. Campus speech codes fetishize the need to not make people 'uncomfortable" with "inappropriate" speech

10. Libraries de-accessioning books

11. No dogs allowed on campus

12. A weight room whose 25-lb dumbbells are always being stolen

13. (not that you asked for 13) Students who steal each other's flash drives

14. English teachers laughing at student solecisms. (Get over it! Misplaced modifiers are sixth grade humor!)

15. Students who only want to know if a piece of writing is "good."

I better stop, eh? I'm well over the speed limit....

Stephanie said...

Groups of people who Laverne and Shirley their way slowly down a sidewalk or corridor, not letting others pass them.

@ Matt, I love love love this!!

I can't wait to use this quote in an intro to linguistics class!
Thanks!

L-girl said...

If only everyone hated public cell phone use as much as we do.

1. People who have strong opinions about books without reading them.

I'll expand on this. People who have strong opinions about anything they know nothing about.

L-girl said...

3. music played in restaurants, dentist's offices, supermarkets, *outside* of gas stations, etc. -- why are we so afraid of quiet and our own thoughts?

I was dumbfounded the first time I heard music played *outside* a restaurant. Many of the big chain restaurants do this.

johngoldfine said...

Our local country grocery plays classic country in their parking lot from 7 am to 10 pm and it is not soft either....

Amy said...

6. people who stop moving at the top of an escalator or in the doorway of a building or subway car

OK, I admit that I stop at the top of the escalator. Those things scare the living daylights out of me. When I can, I walk the stairs or take an elevator.

4. 'Outcomes' and 'assessment'

Yes, yes, yes. What BS!

redsock said...

Waiter Sara Barron's book "People Are Unappealing" recounts why REM singer Michael Stipe is known in certain circles as "Twat Waffle".

Re escalator: But you probably know which direction you are going in when you get to the top. These people stop right at the top and seem to *then* think about planning the rest of their journey.

Amy said...

Yes, I tend to move quickly when getting OFF the escalator. I want to get away from that thing!

I meant I stop at the top before getting ON the escalator (or at the bottom if it is an UP escalator). I am just always afraid that I won't get both feet on in time!!

L-girl said...

Stopping at the top of escalators is not only annoying - it is dangerous! I have had to push people forward to avoid a pile-up.

* * * *

I didn't know people were afraid of escalators. That must be unpleasant, as they are often unavoidable.

L-girl said...

Amy, it sounds like you mean you are hesitant to get ON the escalator. That's not dangerous - and not what A & I (and others) find annoying.

It's people who get OFF the escalator and don't move out of the way. Grrr.

Amy said...

Right---like I said, getting off is easier (though I do worry about tripping there also, I just hop off), and I move quickly because I don't want people colliding with me!

johngoldfine said...

The first escalator I was ever on, amy, was at the old Forest Hills el stop outside Boston. I must have been five and the escalator must have dated to the opening of the el.

It was about 18 inches wide, had wooden risers with gaps between slats wide enough to fit a child's hand, clackclacked continuously, and I could only bear and dare to get on if my father swung me on ahead of him. I was convinced that it was going to suck me in and turn me into johnsghetti...

johngoldfine said...

amy--I've just google 'escalator accidents' and discover, as you probably already know, that your trade has a specialty known as 'escalator accident attorneys.' Presumably they are not starving.

L-girl said...

I know a horrific escalator accident story but I will not tell it here, and I hope we everyone else will do the same.

* * * *

Meanwhile, I forgot one of my absolute most hated pet peeves!! The one that started this list in the first place, but I forgot to include. (Does my shitty memory count as a pet peeve???)

I will add it now.

Amy said...

Yes, please --- don't feed my phobia!

And I just got my Chanukah present for tonight---the Sox signed Tek to a one year contract for $2 million. I hope he then retires after next year so that I never have to see him wearing another team's uniform.

(Sorry to go off topic, but I wanted to share my happiness, even if no one else will care. I didn't yet see a JOS post for today, so where else could I go?)

L-girl said...

Holy crap. That sucks. But let's not go any further with the subject here, ok? Thanks.

Andrea said...

PEOPLE WHO CHEW GUM WITH THEIR MOUTH OPEN!!!!!!!!!!
It takes everything in my power to not jump on them and rip the damn gum out of their mouth.

AUGH!!!!!!!!!!!

Andrea said...

for those that have the tipping and waiter pet peeves ya gotta check out this great blog.

http://waiterrant.net/

He is funny. lol

Dusty said...

People in my building who ignore me when I say hello to them in the elevator.

impudent strumpet said...

People in my building who talk to me in the elevator!

(Sorry, couldn't help myself)

impudent strumpet said...

Real list:

1. People who walk slowly, oblivious to the fact that others might want to pass them (walking three abreast, walking in a way that straddles the "lanes" of the sidewalk). Especially when they look like they can walk faster than me! (Taller, fitter, not wearing ridiculous heels, not carrying groceries, etc.)

2. The phrase "as regards" **cringe**

3. People who are supposed to be smarter than me but aren't.

4. Platitudes

5. People who vote wrong (i.e. they want more widgets, but they vote for the guy who's banning widgets) because they listen only to sound bites instead of taking 5 minutes from their life to google up the candidates' actual platforms. Especially when they vote in a way that hurts me. Especially especially when the information they were missing was in my blog and they're people who "should" be reading my blog (e.g. real-life friends, twitter followers, etc.)

6. Software that's a total resource-suck for no good reason (**cough cough iTunes 10 cough cough**)

7. Newspaper/magazine articles that don't tell me anything I don't already know. The Star's new Moneyville section is a particularly egregious example.

8. Receiving documents to translate that have the charts/tables/diagrams embedded as uneditable images, or where the whole document has been gratuitously converted into a PDF.

9. Parents who diss their children to other adults for behaving like children.

10. When people pretend they think my jokes are funny. I know I'm not always funny! Don't insult us both!

11. When the cleaning and maintenance people in my office building are deferential to me. I'm not the boss of you! We're fellow employees of the same organization! (And even the people whom I might remotely be considered "the boss of" aren't deferential to me.)

12. When people lie to me about my own first-hand experiences. I don't actually mind lying as much as most people do - I know there's all kinds of reasons people might do it - but don't lie to me about things I have seen or done myself! Especially when you haven't seen or done them yourself!

Dale said...

1.) People who question the validity of things like, evolution or Big Bang cosmology.

2.) Religious people (see number one).

3.) People who text message while you're talking to them.

4.) People who use the inaccuracy of the English language to "prove" something tested with the Scientific Method "wrong". (Evolution is ONLY a theory.)

5.) Wait staff who fill your drink too often.

6.) Wait staff who "forget" about you.

7.) Adults who don't spell or punctuate properly.

8.) Text speak. This is worse than Newspeak because it incorporates numbers. ( r u going 2 da club 2nite?)

9.) Being asked where my accent is just because I'm from Texas.

10.) Being asked stupid ass questions about Texas.

11.) Being "reminded" that W. was from Texas. (For the record he's from Connecticut. Why do you think he's the only Bush with that stupid accent?)

12.) Baby Boomer's sense of fucking entitlement. Just because by quirk of birth you happen to have been here longer does not mean that I owe you something. Especially when that something is my seat on the TTC. I worked all day just like you did. And I DON'T have a pension to look forward to, unlike a certain demographic who are milking me dry. So walk on the right side of the sidewalk, at a decent pace and stop eyeing me on the subway.

13.) The right.

Nitangae said...

Nitangae: 1. People who have strong opinions about books without reading them.

L-Girl:

"I'll expand on this. People who have strong opinions about anything they know nothing about."

Nitangae: I prefer the narrow version (restricted to books) because everybody's knowledge is so limited. It is also so open to abuse - if you complain about some act of police violence, the police officer can simply tell you that, as a civilian, you don't know anything about the challenges of policing, etc.

But it drives me crazy when people tell me that such and such a book is bad for such and such a reason, and it becomes clear within five minutes that they have not, in fact, read the book. Not even one word! Somehow this seems more blatent than ordinary strong opinions, because surely they themselves must know that they have not read the book in question.

I remember a Toronto Star article in which Joseph Conrad's Secret Agent was described as providing a view of the world similar to that of Dick Cheney. The only way, of course, that someone could think that was if that person simply had never opened the book, not even once, and was relying on a wikipedia summary, or on quotatons in another persons review.

Nitangae said...

I like John Goldfine's examples. I add to them with:

Presidents of universities who sell the glories of clicker technology and large lectures when they themselves were educated in small classrooms at an Ivy League university.

I forgot one more pet-peeve:

People who affect lazy cynicism; that is, those who, open hearing a poem, immediately trumpet that x poet is "overrated" or upon hearing a political discussion, inform all that "all politicians are corrupt, so why bother."

L-girl said...

[Me] "I'll expand on this. People who have strong opinions about anything they know nothing about."

Nitangae: I prefer the narrow version (restricted to books) because everybody's knowledge is so limited. It is also so open to abuse - if you complain about some act of police violence, the police officer can simply tell you that, as a civilian, you don't know anything about the challenges of policing, etc.


Yes, you're right. I'm thinking of something very specific, too, but harder to describe succinctly. I'll try this:

People who hear or read one sentence or less of any given topic outside of their area of knowledge and - instead of asking questions or listening, which would show their intelligence - dismiss it or declare it stupid or wrong. "That's ridiculous!" "That's impossible!" "Oh yeah right, and I suppose [grossly exaggerated sarcastic comment]..."

And I agree re books - VERY annoying!

L-girl said...

8.) Text speak. This is worse than Newspeak because it incorporates numbers. ( r u going 2 da club 2nite?)

Uh-oh. Here I've been pissing off Dale and didn't even know it.

I really like txtspk for texting - a very useful time saver and in absolutely no danger of Ruining The Language or Destroying Our Brain. Just another method of communication.

Sorry Dale, I'll try to text with whole words from now on.

Other than that, I love your list.

L-girl said...

12. When people lie to me about my own first-hand experiences. I don't actually mind lying as much as most people do - I know there's all kinds of reasons people might do it - but don't lie to me about things I have seen or done myself!

My father did this to me ALL THE TIME. I hated it.

deang said...

1. Leaf blowers
2. Overly bright artificial lighting, indoors or out
3. People who have to have background media noise on constantly, be it music, TV, radio, whatever, even when outdoors. I also hate that gyms tend to have loud music and multiple TVs blaring (if I’m dishonest, I would say that that’s why I haven’t gone in a while)
4. Huge SUVs and trucks
5. US car designs of the past ca. 2 decades – big, bulbous, bulky, swoopy, low-MPG, and not space-efficient
6. Cheesy status cars like late-model BMWs
7. People who are fanatic that their cars be kept spotless, to the extent that they double-park to avoid the risk of scratches from neighboring cars
8. Mandatory positive thinking, especially when you can see people actively attempting to deny that something harmful to them has just happened (“I wasn’t just fired, I was given an opportunity for personal growth!”)
9. The expectation, especially from employers, that everybody be outgoing and able to multi-task
10. Shallow, uninformed beliefs about supposed differences between males and females (“guys won’t ask directions”, “girls always want to talk about feelings,” etc.); I especially hate the strain of US humor based on these assumptions, which I think of as the “Girls Are Like This, Guys Are Like That” comedy meme.
11. People who think that computers should replace everything (libraries, books, school, human contact, etc.)
12. Show-off cell phone talk, cell phone talking while driving (especially when turning), cell phone status-buying, cell phones in general. I was recently in Japan and was surprised to see that people don’t talk much on cell phones in public; when they do, they step discreetly out of public earshot and talk sotto voce. Wish it were that way here.

L-girl said...

Cheers to 1, 2, 3, 8, 10, 12! Especially #3.

Plus, you were in Japan, how great! I knew you were visiting a Japanese friend, but didn't realize that was in Japan.

Stephanie said...

@Deang

#1 Leafblowers! Yes yes yes.

Our nextdoor neighbours recently purchased one and I cringe at the noise of the thing everytime I hear it!

johngoldfine said...

deang--I'm particularly fond of your 8.

L-girl said...

deang--I'm particularly fond of your 8.

Me too.

Related, from Imp Strump:

4. Platitudes

deang said...

I knew you were visiting a Japanese friend, but didn't realize that was in Japan.

Yes, very unexpectedly last month, for just five days. The friend I was visiting was the one I think I mentioned recently who is suffering from an auto-immune disorder that results in all-over arthritis, even in her spine, and stinging skin that medication has improved to merely itching. She was only recently diagnosed with this and brought friends there (as in paid their fare) to help cheer her up and help her do some things she can no longer do easily. I really didn't get to do much sight-seeing, but I enjoyed it anyway. It was a much-needed head-clearer.

L-girl said...

Sounds like a great experience. How wonderful for her that she was able to do that. I feel for her, that condition sounds awful.

L-girl said...

Current and annual pet peeve: "Are you all ready for Christmas?"

M@ said...

Even worse: "Are you done your Christmas shopping yet?"

L-girl said...

Even worse: "Are you done your Christmas shopping yet?"

That's what it means - plus all the wrapping, cooking, planning and home-preparation that they assume I am doing.

Now you've given me a new, additional reason to hate this question. It could very well be that you hear "done your shopping" and I hear "are you ready" based on gender. It's mainly women who ask me this question - the hair stylist, my co-workers. It's likely that you're only expected to be a dutiful consumer, and I'm expected to be a homemaker.

Now you'll excuse me while I go throw up.

Amy said...

Definitely one of my pet peeves as well, though fortunately it only occurs seasonally!

If it's the shopping question, I usually answer by saying that I don't celebrate Christmas. If it's just the "Merry Christmas" greeting, I usually just smile and say, "You, too."

One day last week I had some non-Christmas gift wrap in the car. I got out of my car, and a man standing in the parking lot next to my car said, "Wow, women are amazing. You are already doing your Christmas shopping!" I said, "No, I do not celebrate Christmas; this is for a gift for someone who just had a baby and also for Hanukkah." He just sort of looked embarrassed and smiled.

Grrr.

M@ said...

It's ironic that that gender difference exists, too. I do end up being "ready" for Xmas -- sumei and I host the big family party, which I am responsible for at least half of; and I am also usually hosting Xmas dinner with sumei's immediate family, which is all my responsibility. So I really do have to be "ready for Xmas", although it doesn't involve much shopping. (sumei and I have slowly removed ourselves from gift-buying reassures over the years. Thank something.)

I don't mind my role because I like roasting a turkey and whatnot, but that may have something to do with it being something I choose, rather than something that is assigned to me.

I like it much better when I can tell people "oh, I'm going away for Xmas this year", though.

L-girl said...

Amy, I applaud your directness! That is excellent.

When people ask "How was your Christmas?" I try to say, "I don't celebrate Christmas, but thanks, how was yours...". In recent years, the person typically responds, "I just mean the holidays in general, the winter season," which I find truly ridiculous.

Matt, that's exactly it - choice versus expectation. And expectation based on gender is beyond maddening to me.

In other news, I hate Christmas. I guess it's time for my annual IHC post.

Amy said...

I am direct, but I am also pleasant. I try to remember to say it with a smile, lest the other party walk away muttering, "Damn infidels---so rude," or "Damn Jews--let them all go to hell."

Someone said to me the other day, "Happy Hanukkah---though I know it's really only a holiday for children." Huh?? If I said that about Christmas, people would get quite upset! I gently explained to her that it is not at all a holiday only for children.

You catch more flies with honey than vinegar, as they say.

L-girl said...

Same here. I would never be less than friendly or polite when I say this. But your approach is so much better than just "grin and bear it".

L-girl said...

The main reason I try to always be friendly about this, is because I do recognize that (in this situation) people mean well, or at least they mean no harm. The Xmas b/s is such an ingrained part of their life, and they're only making small talk.

I do recognize this, even as I am mentally gritting my teeth.

impudent strumpet said...

I don't understand why people feel the need to "seasonalize" (for lack of a better word) their small talk like that. And I'm not saying "I don't understand" in the sense of "I don't like it." I'm saying I have no idea what they get out of it. Even when I was a child and celebrated xmas, I got nothing out of saying or having said to me "Merry Christmas" rather than "Hi". Whatever reward centre is being triggered in their brains is absent from mine.

Joe Gravellese said...

Litterers

People who misuse the term "politically correct"

Taylor Swift

People who state fairly common opinions with this smug expression as though they are speaking a forbidden truth

People who ride an elevator less than 4 floors

"faded" apparel (purchased this way, not occurring naturally)

Bon Jovi

PDFs

Work-related or school-related things in which someone makes a power point, then basically reads the power point, with maybe a few extra words added

reggaeton (nothing against music in spanish, i just can't stand that incessant beat. BRMMM ba BRMM BRMM)

L-girl said...

Litterers

litterers cause me to question my opposition to the death penalty

People who state fairly common opinions with this smug expression as though they are speaking a forbidden truth

I HATE THIS

People who ride an elevator less than 4 floors

Exceptions made for people with disabilities, seniors and people carrying heavy packages or suitcases, please?

Good list! I thought it might include pink Sox hats. ;)

L-girl said...

So Joe, what have you got against PDFs?

L-girl said...

I don't understand why people feel the need to "seasonalize" (for lack of a better word) their small talk like that.

I'm guessing the holiday is on their mind so much that they can't help themselves.

But that's just a stab in the dark. I really have no idea. That bit was left out of my DNA too.

Joe Gravellese said...

L, I have a 7-year-old laptop that reacts to PDFs as though they're allergic to dogs and a bunch of pups walked into the room.

It's a perfectly fine file format, I just hate when I click on a link to read a report or something and it's in .pdf, because my laptop goes into lockup mode.

I can't be the only one with this problem, and I have to imagine there are a decent number of PDFs that could be converted into doc's or whatever.

Maybe it's just me.

Obviously people with disabilities, etc. don't count in my elevator complaint.

Joe Gravellese said...

I'm at peace w/ the pink red sox hats.

L-girl said...

PDFs: ah-ha. Gotcha. I had similar problems before I added more memory to my old desktop PC and ditched my clunky old laptop for a little netbook. How quickly we forget.

I'm at peace w/ the pink red sox hats.

I'm glad. :)

Hey, better than pink NYY caps!