9.29.2010

c-440 is defeated in second reading

We lost. 143-136. More when I can.

19 comments:

Mike said...

What?

L-girl said...

Awful. Stunning. We have an emergency meeting tomorrow night to discuss future strategy.

I hate the Liberals.

M@ said...

What. The. Fuck.

CAulds said...

I tried to contact all the opposition members in this province (NB). Of these, three Liberal MP's, Dominic Leblanc (from my riding), Brian Murphy and Jean-Claude D'Amours did not even show up and vote. What is that all about?

They did not even vote. The Bill lost because some Liberal did not even vote.

I'm disgusted.

L-girl said...

The Liberals who no-showed voted no. That's a party way of voting no without being on record as doing so. They were in the HoC to vote on the long-form census private member's bill only half an hour earlier - then left the house for C-440.

Liberal Alan Tonks and 2 independents voted with the Conservatives.

Other Liberals voted no by not voting. Of those, several told Kennedy they were voting in favour - or at least Kennedy told us they had done so.

L-girl said...

The following MPs who were present for the vote on the long-form census did not show up a couple of hours (I thought it was sooner) later to vote for Bill C-440.

Many of the MPs on this list told us they were voting in favour. A few we knew there were problems with, but others, we expected their vote.

Bigras, Bernard Bloc
Dhalla, Ruby Lib
Faille, Meili Bloc
Garneau, Marc Lib
Ignatieff, Michael Lib
LeBlanc, Dominic Lib
McCallum, John Lib
Sgro, Judy Lib
Simson, Michelle Lib
Valeriote, Francis Lib
Volpe, Joseph Lib - met with campaigners for 1.5 hours, agreed to vote yes for it go to committee
Wilfert, Bryon Lib
Zarac, Lise Lib

L-girl said...

I am relieved to not see my MP's name on that list. She never got back to us and we didn't know what to expect.

redival said...

I'm not surprised about Volpe. I used to live in his ward and talked with him on the phone before the last vote. He insisted that war resisters should be treated just like any other refugee and go through the same process as everyone else and cited his time as Immigration Minister as proof that this process was perfectly functional and unbiased.

I am really glad that my current MP is not on the list.

Rachel Adelson said...

Curious to see what kind of written response I get from Wilfert to my 2-page letter. My husband said when he called that office, the response sounded guarded. What's their problem...

MSEH said...

Unfortunately my MP voted no, but he's a conservative, Keith Ashfield (NB), so I didn't expect otherwise. This really sucks.

redsock said...

The following MPs who were present for the vote on the long-form census did not show up a couple of hours (I thought it was sooner) later to vote for Bill C-440.

The voting on the various bills was supposed to begin at 5:45. It did not start on time. You posted news of the defeat at 6:30.

I'd say the two votes were about 30-35 minutes apart.

L-girl said...

Thanks, A. So I was correct the first time.

Re Volpe, we knew he felt this way. That is why we lobbied him strongly. Two campaigners who know him spoke to him on the phone several times, then met with him for 90 minutes. At the end of that meeting, he agreed to vote yes so the bill could go to committee. He agreed that whatever problems he had with the bill could be handled in committee.

L-girl said...

Rachel, thank you, and please thank A for calling. Whatever you hear or get back, please share it with me.

L-girl said...

Dominic LeBlanc is (was) a long-time supporter of our campaign. His father was a close friend of Pierre Trudeau's.

L-girl said...

Dominic LeBlanc had to attend a funeral. He is still a strong supporter of ours, as is Bloc MP Meili Faille.

Michelle said...

The long form census vote was at 5:50 pm-ish. The vote on C-440 was around 6:20 pm. So not a long time to wait to vote. If C-440 had been second in the stack of votes, instead of 5th, we might just have carried it.

L-girl said...

The long form census vote was at 5:50 pm-ish. The vote on C-440 was around 6:20 pm. So not a long time to wait to vote. If C-440 had been second in the stack of votes, instead of 5th, we might just have carried it.

It wasn't about the timing. Those who stayed away did so purposefully. They sold out their previous support for politics.

impudent strumpet said...

Weird that they weren't paired.

L-girl said...

You mean Ignatieff and Harper? Kennedy's office was told they were paired. But Harper was there and voted.

In fact, all the Tories including all cabinet ministers, stayed through all 5 votes. They are a disciplined bunch.