question: when is the end of a war not the end of a war?

Answer: When it is not the end of the war.

I am absolutely, utterly, totally and completely floored to learn that otherwise intelligent people actually believe that the US occupation of Iraq is over.

The US has been lying about this war since a year before the invasion. They have been lying, deceiving, bullshitting, spinning, inventing, embellishing, covering-up - what else you got? go get a thesaurus - from day one. Why would they suddenly start telling the truth now?

After this so-called withdrawal, more than 50,000 US troops will remain in Iraq, and that number again in private mercenaries, funded by US taxpayers, will be there, too.

People, you can't seriously believe this constitutes the end of the war, can you?

And why would the US pull out? Has an unlimited cache of oil just been found on the moon?

"We have always been at war with Eastasia."


redsock said...

If you believed Obama today, then you obviously believed Bush back in May 2003: "Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed."

Yay! The US won the war twice!

How could anyone on the left get suckered by this bullshit? What the fuck? You woke up today thinking, "Well, okay, the US has lied to the world 100 times a day for eight fucking years, but I think whatever they say TODAY will be the truth."?

This shows how strong propaganda is. Even people who should know much, much better can get fooled.

However old you are right now -- 18, 30, 65 -- the US will have its military hand in Iraq until the day you die. That seems blindingly clear.

redsock said...

The occupation and wholesale murder will continue for years and years and the damage back in the US will continue for decades more.


Police in Superior say a veteran apparently killed his pregnant wife and their daughter before committing suicide.

Investigators believe 23-year-old Matthew Magdzas shot 26-year-old April Oles and 13-month old Lila Magdzas on Tuesday afternoon. Police say family members told them Oles was eight-and-a-half months pregnant. Autopsy results are still pending.

Wisconsin National Guard Lt. Col. Jackie Guthrie says Magdzas enlisted in the Guard in 2005 and was assigned to the Superior-based 950th Engineer Company.

He volunteered to deploy overseas with a Guard artillery unit in 2006. The unit was tasked with protecting convoys moving from Kuwait into northern Iraq. His deployment ended in 2007.


redsock said...

And P.Fuckin.S.:

"With the United States drawing down troops in Iraq, the State Department plans to double the number of private security contractors it uses to ensure the safety of the huge civilian development effort, officials said on Thursday.

State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said the plan would bring to some 7,000 the total security contractors employed by the government in Iraq, where since the 2003 U.S. invasion private security firms have often been accused of acting above the law.


Keep paying those taxes! Those Iraqis women are not going to rape themselves and those children are not going to get blown apart for free.

Nitangae said...

Dear Redsock:

If I may suggest a nitpicky change to the following passage:

"However old you are right now -- 18, 30, 65 -- the US will have its military hand in Iraq until the day you die. That seems blindingly clear."

That seems very very likely; they certainly have been involved in Iraq militarily since well before I was born, and before that, of course, it was the British who were there. But let us leave the door open to hope and include a brief "unless we stop them."

L-girl said...

Nitangae, thank you for reminding us about hope.

You apparently have a lot more of it than I do. But even without it, I know I'll never give up.