on what what planet does she spend her time? that's the good old u s of a

When I heard there were protesters parading around an Obama event carrying assault weapons, I immediately thought of a search string I recently saw in my Statcounter.
why isnt obama dead yet

Chilling words. I saved it, but couldn't bear to turn the words into humour as I usually do.

By now I assume you've all seen the video of a town hall participant comparing - in apparent seriousness - Barack Obama to Adolph Hitler, and referring to health care reform as a "Nazi policy". Of course we all love Senator Barney Frank's reply, but there is something very dangerous and sinister going on.

When a moderate centrist like Barack Obama is publicly vilified as a Nazi, we are reminded that, despite the anti-Communist rhetoric we all grew up with, the US has never been in any serious danger of revolution from the left. The danger in the US is, as it has always been, from the right. The presence of a Democrat in the White House does not mean the danger has passed. In fact, Obama's election might have been the spark the fascists need.

[About US fascism, Sara Robinson asks, "Are We There Yet?". With everything that's been going on with me personally, I haven't yet read this post fully, but it looks very good.]

Perhaps the people who - incredibly, ridiculously, ignorantly - asked if Allan and I were moving back to the US because of Obama's election have got a clue by now. While I'm actively engaged in the project of improving Canada - the ongoing work of every society - there's never been a question in my mind as to which country I'd rather live in. The Harper Government always disappoints and sometimes disgusts me, but they are temporary. Harper does not equal Canada. And I'm still grateful every day to be here.

So many USians wish they could join me. There's been no let up of emails from Americans desperate to leave TGNOTFOTE. I receive at least a few each week.

Andrew from Pennsylvania writes:
I am Gay and I am an Atheist. I don't parade both around nor shove it in anyone's face. But, everyone in this country seems to feel the need (even today) to shove their evangelical homophobia in my face (through law, commercials, social engineering, etc).

I have never liked America since I started learning more about it. It is nice, yes, to walk down the street without getting bombed. But, being Gay and Atheist, some streets I can't walk down without getting stabbed or shot (unless I play the straight Christian). Beyond the religion and politics, the general attitude of these people is just mindbogglingly narrow-minded and selfish.

I want to move to Canada because I do not believe that America will ever have its act together. ...

[In Canada] I don't think there will be the kind of BS we have to deal with on a daily basis. No wars to worry about, no right-wing Christian using his Bible to make law. Not having to pay an additional 150$ [per month] to get insured SIMPLY because we're a same-sex couple.

I don't want to have to go on marches, or go to protests, or hold rallies just so I get equal treatment. . . . I also am tired of constant War.

R from Florida writes:
...very disenchanted with the direction my country is moving. I'm not patriotic; I've never seen a reason to be. Even with the election of Obama, the situation seems to simply be swinging back deeply towards the irrational. Sadly, unless I have a job secured, I don't meet the points necessary to immigrate, and for me that's heartbreaking.

R sent me a link to his blog, and when I told him how much I enjoyed one entry, he said:
It has been months since I've done any serious writing; I'm simply too depressed watching my country implode, as well as dealing with my own issues. I will press on.

I well remember that feeling.

I wish everyone who wanted to move to Canada could do so. It's considerably more difficult now than it was when we applied in 2003. But it's still possible, either with pre-arranged employment, or if you have experience in one of these fields listed by the CIC. And, there is still hope that if the Liberals can form a government, immigration restrictions will ease up.

And in case you've spent the last 24 hours in a cave, here's Barney Frank.


James said...

why isnt obama dead yet

You may have heard of the recent Arizona Town Hall at which someone showed up wearing a pistol on his hip and an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle over his shoulder. (If you don't know what an AR-15 is like, well, it's pretty similar to an AK-47 "Kalashnikov" rifle.)

He said he was trying to make the point that "In Arizona, I still have some freedoms." Of course, Obama has never made any move to do anything about gun control, so the point was superfluous to anyone paying attention.

He was perfectly law-abiding &c, but I have to wonder what his excuse would have been had some "Obama is going to kill my grandma" nut had grabbed the (unsecured) rifle on his back and started shooting. There was no trigger lock in place -- at most, the safety was on.

L-girl said...

You may have heard of the recent Arizona Town Hall at which someone showed up wearing a pistol on his hip and an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle over his shoulder.

Yup, that's the one that's linked above:

When I heard there were protesters parading around an Obama event carrying assault weapons

Same guy with his "freedoms" in AZ.

James said...

That's what I get for reading too fast between test runs.

Is there anything the right is accusing Obama of that he's actually shown any sign of doing?

L-girl said...

Is there anything the right is accusing Obama of that he's actually shown any sign of doing?

Not that I'm aware of.

redsock said...

Following on the fascism thread, here is something I posted to my now-defunct political blog in 2006:

US Vice President Henry Wallace, New York Times, April 9, 1944:

"The really dangerous American fascist ... is the man who wants to do in the United States in an American way what Hitler did in Germany in a Prussian way. The American fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to poison the channels of public information. With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power. ...

"They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. They demand free enterprise, but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest. Their final objective toward which all their deceit is directed is to capture political power so that, using the power of the state and the power of the market simultaneously, they may keep the common man in eternal subjection."

The entire op-ed is here.

Andrew said...

It is funny. These people think their healthcare decision are 'between their doctor and them'. When, it is only between the CEO of their insurance company and their doctor. They, the patient, is only involved if there is some way to restrict coverage. That's why there's entire staffing at these companies whose job it is to try and pay for as little as possible. Want to talk about 'death panels'? Just look in your nearest insurance companies office.

L-girl said...

These people think their healthcare decision are 'between their doctor and them'. When, it is only between the CEO of their insurance company and their doctor.

Yes, whereas in Canada, where everyone has equal access to health insurance, medical decisions actually are made by patients and doctors.

For some extraordinary procedures, the province has to approve or not approve of payment. But those cases are pretty rare, and they often involve experimental procedures.

ErinOrtlund said...

Sheesh--it's very weird to live among people who appreciate their universal healthcare and then to see that video of that woman comparing Obama's efforts to Hitler. If you don't want universal healthcare or don't like how Obama is going about it, fine. But to compare it to the Nazis? That's just over the top ridiculous.

L-girl said...

Holy shit! Mark from Ottawa is still obsessed with me!

This guy came around here talking warmongering bullshit. I banned him, and he has not stopped posting about me since - on at least 3 or 4 different blogs.

I see "Dust My Broom" in my Statcounter, and knowing it's a wingnut blog, I was wondering who had linked to me there. And sure enough, there he is, Mark Collins from Ottawa.

Mark: Obama is a moderate centrist in US terms. Of course he is escalating the war machine. No one who would do otherwise can be POTUS. That's a given.

Obama would be quite conservative in Canadian terms. But this post is about the US.

L-girl said...

This guy came around here talking warmongering bullshit. I banned him

Probably two years ago at this point.

James said...

During the Arizona Town Hall, another guy staged an interview with the AR-15 carrier and later posted it online. It turns out that the interviewer was a defender of the Arizona Viper Militia, some of whose members were convicted of plotting a Timothy McVeigh-style bombing of federal buildings in the 90s.

L-girl said...

Several readers have told me that the woman Frank is addressing has been ID'd as a follower of Lyndon LaRouche. Mike of Veterans for Peace sent this: Vistors from Planet LaRouche.

Interesting exercept:

The fact that supporters of Mr. LaRouche’s conspiracy theories, who have long been a staple of political events in the United States, have somehow managed to use the health care debate to make their way on to national and international television is one of the stranger developments of the summer. So, too, is the fact that Mr. LaRouche’s idea that legislation in Congress contains provisions for “death panels” has made its way from the fringe to the center of the discussion.

For those unfamiliar with the range of his thinking, Mr. LaRouche also claims that the Queen of England “personally runs the military and intelligence services” of the United Kingdom, and recently suggested that “top circles in London, who are furious at President Barack Obama for flubbing the British demands to impose fascism on the United States,” may soon “attempt to assassinate the President.”

No one is more put out by the fact that Mr. LaRouche has received no credit for introducing Nazis into the health care debate than Mr. LaRouche himself. In a news release this month, his political action committee wrote, “Lyndon LaRouche and the LaRouchePAC are the source of the campaign to expose the Obama ‘health care’ policy as modeled on that of Hitler in 1939.”

. . . .

While Mr. LaRouche’s worldview may not allow for the possibility, it seems quite likely that Ms. Parker simply had no idea that many of the people waving those posters were LaRouche followers. Twenty years ago, in a review of Dennis King’s book “Lyndon LaRouche and the New American Fascism,” George Johnson, an editor at The New York Times, wrote, “Newspapers and television news programs generally consider Mr. LaRouche too loony to write about. There has long been a feeling among newspaper editors that the best way to fight political extremists is to ignore them. Mr. King shows how this hands-off policy has been partly responsible for the growing influence of Mr. LaRouche’s cult.”

James said...

LaRouche is only saner than David Icke in that he doesn't actually believe that the Royal Family, the Bushes, Boxcar Willie, etc, are lizard men from outer space. Apart from that, they're equally nuts and equally deserving of scorn.

BTW, it turns out that the guy with the AR-15 is a big fan of Pastor Steve "Exterminate the Sodomites" Anderson -- charming fellow.