11.05.2008

what else happened in the u.s. this election day?

US voters elected Barack Obama, and many Democrat senators, congresspeople and governors. What else did they do?

Voters in Arizona banned same-sex marriage.

Voters in Arkansas prohibited unmarried couples from adopting or providing foster homes for children. Since same-sex couples are not allowed to marry, this is a de facto ban on same-sex couples adopting.

Voters in California banned same-sex marriage.

Voters in Florida added a ban of same-sex marriage, already illegal in Florida, to their state constitution.

To be fair to the many good people in each of those states, at least 38% of voters tried to defeat those measures. All the laws will be challenged, but the message is clear: gays and lesbians are still second-class citizens in the US.

Now please, no more questions about whether anyone wants to "move back". My friends Tom at Canadian Hope and Nick at Life Without Borders address that question. At best, it's silly and uninformed; at worst, it's downright offensive. We didn't come here for a vacation. We're putting down roots. We're becoming Canadian.

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Good people are also celebrating the defeat of a bill that would have banned all abortions except in the most extreme circumstances. After fetus lovers in South Dakota tried to ban all abortions in 2006, only to see voters reject that bill, they tried again with a similar idea, this time including narrow exceptions - the kind that amount to a tiny percentage of all abortions.

Voters rejected that, too.

21 comments:

John F said...

There's no question that individual rights and equality took a beating in the US yesterday. The only silver lining I can find is a bit selfish: as a Canadian, I welcome the continuing influx of gay immigrants. Bring on that gay affluence! :-)

redsock said...

Not so fast, bigots!

Opponents of a ballot measure to ban gay marriage refused to concede this morning, despite vote totals that show supporters of Proposition 8 with a 400,000-vote advantage.
Kate Kendall, executive director of the National Center for Lesbian Rights, said 3 million to 4 million ballots remain uncounted statewide.
"The fact is depending on the turnout model we are looking at millions of votes yet to be counted," Kendall said. The race is too close to call. People's fundamental rights hang in the balance."
Secretary of State Debra Bowen is expected to issue an estimate of the number of uncounted ballots late today or Thursday. It could take days to process all of them. Proposition 8 supporters declared victory early today, saying their model shows them with an insurmountable lead.

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Lawsuit Challenging Prop 8 in California Is Filed
The suit was filed today in the California Supreme Court on behalf of Equality California and six same-sex couples who did not marry before Tuesday’s election but would like to be able to marry now. California Attorney General Jerry Brown said that the marriages of the estimated 18,000 same-sex couples who married between June 16, 2008 and the passage of the proposition are still valid and must continue to be honored by the state.

redsock said...

UPI: Police Wednesday investigated whether a man with an assault rifle arrested in suburban Chicago was planning to harm President-elect Barack Obama.
Several sources told the Chicago Sun-Times police and Secret Service agents have been interviewing the suspect since he was apprehended in suburban Rosemont Tuesday afternoon.

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This comes little more than a week after "two white supremacists [were arrested after they] allegedly plotted to go on a national killing rampage, shooting and decapitating black people and ultimately targeting" Obama.

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An Oregon man who made a joke in a bar in 2001 about a "burning bush" was sentenced to 37 months in prison. ... Let's see how long these guys are sent away for.

redsock said...

I'll say it: Obama is off to a great start!!!

Mercury News:
After announcing they planned to buy a dog as a reward for their daughters being such good sports about the grueling campaign, animal rights and animal welfare groups started campaigns of their own — for the Obamas to adopt a shelter dog and not buy a dog from a breeder. ...
Michelle Obama announced the family would, indeed, adopt a rescue dog.

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YAY!

redsock said...

UPI: Two self-described skinheads were indicted Wednesday for allegedly plotting to assassinate Barack Obama in the final days of his U.S. presidential campaign ... seven counts alleging violations of federal firearms laws and threats against a presidential candidate.

redsock said...

CBC: The election of a new U.S. president who has vowed to deploy thousands more troops into Afghanistan won't cause Canada to reconsider its decision to pull out of the country by 2011, Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon said Wednesday.
The United States already has 36,000 troops in Afghanistan, and Barack Obama promised during his campaign for the presidency to send up to 12,000 more while scaling down operations in Iraq. ...
"We welcome the renewed focus on Afghanistan on behalf of the president-elect," Cannon said. "The U.S. interest won't change our opinion or intention to withdraw our forces in 2011."

L-girl said...

The only silver lining I can find is a bit selfish: as a Canadian, I welcome the continuing influx of gay immigrants. Bring on that gay affluence! :-)

Not much help to the gay people who can't or don't want to leave, tho. But I know you know that.

Lawsuit Challenging Prop 8 in California Is Filed

Linked in my post, btw...

After announcing they planned to buy a dog as a reward for their daughters being such good sports about the grueling campaign, animal rights and animal welfare groups started campaigns of their own — for the Obamas to adopt a shelter dog and not buy a dog from a breeder. ...
Michelle Obama announced the family would, indeed, adopt a rescue dog.


YAY!

M@ said...

their model shows them with an insurmountable lead.

Funny thing: one really hopes that things are decided based on votes, not on models of votes.

seven counts alleging violations of federal firearms laws and threats against a presidential candidate

Funny. None of those charges say anything about terrorism. Why?

(Btw, I actually came here to point out to anyone who might not know that when I asked whether Laura and Allan were going to move back to the USA in the other thread, I was totally just playing the silly ass. I wouldn't want to give anyone the impression that you guys had been unclear about your motives or intentions -- and as usual, I felt the best way to do that was to make a smartass remark. It's my thing.)

9casey said...

Just saw through Jere's site that you guys game threaded the election, cool.......

Was suprised about some of the other things voted on last night , was really suprised in California....

People I realized ,after watching coverage on most of the networks,and voting I have no use for.....

1. Karl Rove
2. Anyone with a interactive map they can circle and change colors
3.Rachel Maddow and Keith Olberman (2 of the most bias and arroagant wiseasses on TV.)
4. Brit Hume ( you are not funny and this is not Laugh-In)
5. Politicans shaking my hand at the polling place, go home, we already know who we are voting for , don't piss me off by now trying to talk to me.....
6. Most other countries - they most have always hated us, do they like us now because we voted in a Black man or it's not a republican, I don't recall the world going gaga over us when Carter and Clinton won....


People I can tolerate
1. Bill Maher (honest and straight forward I don't beleive in everything he says but he is honest)
When an atheist sneezes what do you say?
2.Anderson Cooper (just runs his show right down the middle)
3.Mike Barnicle (big Red Sox fan)
4. Chris Matthews (anyone that giddy must like pot).


We have a new President today, we have fully given Obama the keys to the Yacht. Make us great once again.

We have spoken many times on Joy about race and inequalites.I think last night showed racism is a dying man's game...and in no way am I saying if you voted for McCain you are a racist..I am just saying we come quite far, there is still some way to go, I just believe racism is not one of our biggest downfalls anymore, not just as Americans , but as a people...

Hope everyone is well.....I need some Hot Stove now!!!!!

Wrye said...

Dear America:

You can have L-Girl and Redsock back when you pry them from our cold, dead hands.

Love, Canada.



Dear California:

Fail.

Sincerely, Civilized People Everywhere.



Dear Florida:

I expect less homophobia out of a state shaped
like a large wang. Maybe next you can make it double extra secret illegal.

Regards, You're Not Fooling Anybody.



Dear Arizona,

One Utah is quite enough for our present needs, thanks.

Regretfully, The Rest of the Continent.



Dear Arkansas,

Bill Clinton, Mike Huckabee and now this. We know you just want attention, but acting out is not the way to do it. And seriously, don't unwanted children have the deck stacked against them enough being born in Arkansas? But at least I can be sure that you have up to date attitudes about contraception and sex education, am I right?

Apologetically, Sometimes Ordinary Sarcasm is not Enough.

John F said...

Not much help to the gay people who can't or don't want to leave, tho. But I know you know that.

Yes. I find the stuff you reported in the post to be upsetting and disgusting, so I tried to cheer myself up my making a joke.

As I've said many times before, I don't feel smug about living in Canada, but relieved.

redsock said...

Most other countries - they most have always hated us

I wonder why that might be. Hmmmmm....

(I should add that it's clear that other countries do not hate Americans per se ... they hate the various American governments.)

I don't recall the world going gaga over us when Carter and Clinton won....

Pretty sure Clinton's win in 1992 was a big deal. And if not, then once he was in office, the world went triple ga-ga.

L-girl said...

Funny. None of those charges say anything about terrorism. Why?

Mm, good point. It's likely all these so-called anti-terror [read: anti civil liberties, anti human, unconstitutional] laws will just stay on the books, to be used at the discretion of whomever happens to want them, against whomever they happen to use as a scapegoat.

(Btw, I actually came here to point out to anyone who might not know that when I asked whether Laura and Allan were going to move back to the USA in the other thread, I was totally just playing the silly ass. I wouldn't want to give anyone the impression that you guys had been unclear about your motives or intentions -- and as usual, I felt the best way to do that was to make a smartass remark. It's my thing.)

Hopefully that was as clear to everyone else as it was to me and Allan, but you can never be too clear!

M@ said...

It's likely all these so-called anti-terror [read: anti civil liberties, anti human, unconstitutional] laws will just stay on the books

I absolutely agree, and the political cost of removing them from the books would be higher, I think, than Obama would be willing to pay.

Incidentally, I came across a copy of Hedges' book and have been reading it over the last couple of days. It's everything you said it was, and I'm really enjoying it (in a certain sense of course). Something about these anti-terror laws really resonates with what Hedges says about nationalism. I'm still processing what I've read so far but I'm impressed that Hedges creates such a whole-cloth understanding so quickly and convincingly. (We'll chat about it next time we get together I'm sure!)

L-girl said...

Hi 9C!

6. Most other countries - they most have always hated us,

You have it exactly backwards. Your having no use for other countries is why people in other countries often disdain the US. Because it won't work with the rest of the world, and insists it can only lead and every one else can only follow, and insists it is the Greatest Nation On The Face Of The Earth - when it is only one of many good nations, many decent places to live, and by far not the best for most people - it alienates people from other places.

If you and other USians were more interested in and concerned about other countries, it would go a long way.

I don't recall the world going gaga over us when Carter and Clinton won....

Then your memory is faulty. After 12 dark years of Reagan/Bush, the world went nuts when Clinton won. Like Obama, the world believed Clinton to be much more liberal than he really is.

But the reason the world is going crazy now is because Bush/Cheney has been shitting on it for 8 years. No one likes to be shit on.

I think last night showed racism is a dying man's game...and in no way am I saying if you voted for McCain you are a racist..I am just saying we come quite far, there is still some way to go, I just believe racism is not one of our biggest downfalls anymore, not just as Americans , but as a people...

I agree. Just as everyone who voted for McCain is not racist (just an idiot), Obama's victory does not mean racism has ended. But it is absolutely a measure of how far the US has come.

L-girl said...

Dear Wrye,

Thank you. That should be a post.

Love,

L-Girl and Redsock

L-girl said...

M@, so glad you're reading that. Yes, "enjoy" isn't quite the right word. We have much to talk about - too much! That's what happens when people get lost on the way to dinner dates...*whistling*

M@ said...

That's what happens when people get lost on the way to dinner dates...*whistling*

The new house will be much, much easier to get to! :)

impudent strumpet said...

Dear California,

See these guys?

The place where they live is currently more forward-thinking, open-minded, relaxed and groovy than you are. You might want to do something about that.

L-girl said...

ROFL @ ImpStrump.

Nikolas said...

Thanks for the nod L-Girl....

To all those people asking me about moving "back home"

Hmmm, let me see, leave Canada to move back to a country with no healthcare for more than 50 million people, no employment discrimination laws for GLBTs, no hate-crimes law for GLBTs, a ban on GLBTs in the military, 2 wars, a black hole of finances, a fruitless war on drugs, and a Patriot Act still in place.

Um, I'm not stupid :-)