Yet some things defy parody, because they are already parodies. When I saw this comment on my recent post about anti-choicers protesting birth control, I assumed it was a joke. I expected the commenter's profile to link to a progressive blog. But no. It went nowhere.
But after re-reading the comment a few times, I now think this person is totally serious. And seriously, seriously scary. No wonder he (or she? please, no) posts anonymously.
Wingnut or parody? You decide.
The pill and abortion have almost single-handedly destroyed western civilization. Women should be mandated to have at least two children. Japan, Europe and North America must stop destroying their cultures through abortion and birth control. Only after giving their country at least two children should women be allowed in the work force and all women who have more than two children should be rewarded with baby bonuses and increased pensions. Women wake up and stop destroying us!
Update: Those of you who guessed "wingnut" were correct. The person who left the comment showed up to elaborate. After leaving a spate of disgusting, fascist comments, which I deleted, he did the usual troll thing: random insults, then "what's amatter, can't handle the truth?!", and your blog sucks anyway. (Paraphrasing, of course.) These trolls are devoid of originality.
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"Only after giving their country at least two children..."
Giving their country? Was I supposed to have a child then turn it over to the US government??
Sounds like a communist plot!!11!!
Just to add to the fun, the commenter's name was "Sanity and Reason".
Hard to believe this person was serious, but then again what people can think is always a shock to me. It sort of sounds like China, but the reverse: you MUST have at least two children. Too preposterous for me to try and formulate any kind of rational response. Like mandating that everyone must eat three meals a day or go to church once a week.
Certainly this person's "law" would violate the privacy principles laid out in the Griswold decision.
(On an unrelated note: is there a way to link back to the WMTC main page from a particular post? E.g., I read this post, went to your older post linked withn this one, but then could not get back to the current one without going back to square one and linking to the wmtc main page from my bookmark. Is there a link embedded somewhere that I am missing on the banner at the top, as there is, e.g., at the top of JOS?)
I'm pretty sure the person was serious. Some crazy shit.
Their "law" would violate just about everything I can think of - human rights, equality, labour laws, you name it.
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To return to the main page, a portion of the banner is clickable. I wasn't able to make the whole thing clickable.
Try the lower left corner (hover until you see the little hand), let me know if that works.
Yup, that works! Should have asked you a long time ago....
I'm afraid I have to vote "real" on this one as well. But then, I have been fooled by some of Landover Baptists' material.
On the other hand, the reason Landover Baptists is so good at fooling people is that it's almost indistinguishable from the real stuff... So if this isn't real, you can bet that there are people out there who actually think this.
Meanwhile, Woman pregnant with 18th child
Who was it who said, "It's a uterus, not a clown car!"?
Clown car, heh, good one.
So many bloggers are writing about the Duggars. Progressive Blogger was full of posts on them. I don't understand the facination, personally.
Re Landover Baptists, think of how many people are fooled by Onion headlines all the time. Whale Omlette indeed.
I don't understand the fascination, personally.
I think it's at least partly a "I'm glad I'm not her" reaction...
PZ Myers had this to say about the clown car:
You know, they have successfully turned their freakish excesses into a profitable enterprise, but it really isn't at all sustainable — I think the superficial news market can only bear one amazing repeatedly distended vagina at a time, and if any of their children try a repeat performance it's going to be ho-hum, and profligacy in child-rearing will be just another symptom & cause of poverty, neglect, and ignorance.
If "Sanity and Reason" hadn't thrown Japan into his rant, I would have suspected him of racism as well as...whatever the hell is already wrong with him.
My first instinct was that this was parody, but now I'm sure it's genuine. If a drunken frat boy can admit to Borat that he'd like to keep women as sex slaves, this is also plausible.
I would have suspected him of racism as well as...whatever the hell is already wrong with him.
Well said. Thanks for the laugh.
I thought it was racist, too, and couldn't figure out the inclusion of Japan.
It has to be racist, since world population is growing, there is certainly no shortage of people. But the populations of *certain countries* are not growing. Lamenting the end of civilization and women not doing their "duty" seems inherently racist to me.
Why Japan, I wonder? So Sanity and Reason looks less racist? Because he believes Japan is a civilized nation, unlike [wherever]?
Why Japan, I wonder? So Sanity and Reason looks less racist? Because he believes Japan is a civilized nation, unlike [wherever]?
Well, the Japanese were "honourary Aryans" during WWII... And "white people must breed more to stay ahead of lesser races" is a common White Supremacist claim...
since S&R (shorter than Sanity and Reason) obviously reads your blog, perhaps he (or she? though I doubt it) would like to answer our questions.
I think S&R was just searching for posts on Protest The Pill Day. Hopefully he won't return - since it's unlikely I would tolerate his comments.
I've come to realize that one of the biggest negatives with the internet is that it allows cowardly bigots to get their messages of hate out to the whole world with virtually no chance of losing their anonymity, let alone getting "caught." A lot of impressionable people read the stuff and it's going to be a big problem.
I love how information can now reach infinitely further than in the past, but corrupt information travels just as fast/far.
That's a good observation, Jere. I often think the same things that make the internet great are also what makes it dangerous. Or potentially dangerous.
Although I love the internet so much.
"cowardly bigots"
Before we moved to Canada, when this blog was attacked by wingnuts on a regular basis, one of the things we used to hear was that we were cowards.
I never understood that myself. But wmtc readers would note the irony of an anonymous commenter calling someone else a coward.
Wow, now that SR is explaining what he meant, it is even scarier. Racist, sexist, and fascist. And who is going to pay for these children? Where are we going to find the resources to feed, clothe and educate them in a world of dwindling resources?
I am not sure why I am wasting my breath (or my fingertips, I guess).
Please do not feed the trolls.
Reproductive freedom is a human rights. People who don't understand that are not welcome at wmtc.
Sorry folks, I have to turn off comments until this nutbar goes away.
A real man would STFU and gestate his own.
Maybe more women would have children if there were fewer men like S&R?
Being of Japanese descent, I've often wondered about the differences in the way people regard different East-Asian races.
Back during the Apartheid era, my Father visited South Africa. At one point, wanting to use the washroom, he was faced with choosing between white and black public washrooms. His host told him, "Don't worry - we consider you white." (That's one of those well-meaning "compliments" that come from people who don't understand that it's not a compliment.) My Father decided he didn't have to go to the washroom.
It was a real revelation to me, years later, when someone pointed out that the distinction is economic. Compare the histories of Japan's and China's economies, their contributions to technology, and their reputations.
The wingnut sounds like a man who can't get laid, and wants to legislate it just to be sure that he does.
Thanks Imp Strump, Nancy and Kim. :)
At one point, wanting to use the washroom, he was faced with choosing between white and black public washrooms. His host told him, "Don't worry - we consider you white."
What a story. What a situation, too. Crazy-making.
When Jewish people first came to North America from Europe, they were considered not quite white, especially the poorer Jews from Eastern Europe (as opposed to the wealthier German Jews). Irish and Italians were also not really white.
If you read newspaper accounts written in the late 1800s and early 1900s, when it was considered perfectly acceptable to refer to people in racially or ethnically stereotyped terms, Jews, Italians and Irish people are all caricatured as visciously as Black people and Chinese people.
These days a North American of Irish or Italian descent is just white.
It really shows how all these distinctions are social constructs in the first place.
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